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Interviews are like statistics, in that you can pretty much make them say whatever you want. In my capacity as a sports fan, and part-time correspondent for Scale of One to Gus Johnson, I sometimes have the privilege of interviewing people from the sports world. Sometimes I write down what was said at the interview, other times I write down what I think was said. Most of the time, I write down what I think they would have said if I’d actually interviewed them.
Anyway, allow me to present the first of what could be several interviews with sports related celebrities. The Scale sent me down to Miami to cover the BCS National Championship, and I had the pleasure to sit down with Urban Meyer, head coach of the Florida Gators.
Six or more random questions with: Coach Urban Meyer*
[*Editor’s Note: Coach Meyer had quite the potty mouth. We have replaced all swear words with more Johnny Dangerously style versions of the word.]
1. Coach Meyer, sorry to bother you during your manicure, but is it alright if I ask you a few questions?
CUM: Uh…sure, just make it snappy. We’re almost done here.
2. Great. Well, I guess I’d be crazy not to ask you about the game. How do you feel about the championship on Thursday?
CUM: I’m the coach the Florida fargin Gators, how do think I feel? Pretty fargin great. Might as well start engraving the fargin trophy with my fargin name on it. Ohio State doesn’t have a chance in hell against my boys. It’ll be a bloodbath.
3. Ohio…wait, you mean Oklahoma, right?
CUM: What’s that?
You mean Oklahoma? Your team’s playing the Oklahoma Sooners on Thursday.
CUM: You think I give a rats ass who we’re fargin playing on Thursday? You can take the corksuckers off of both of those teams and line them up against us…It’s not going to matter one fargin bit.
4. Ah, so I take it you’re a believer in SEC superiority?
CUM: Where you from, boy?
Well, I’m originally from…
CUM: Who gives a chit, icehole. The University of Florida IS the SEC, you understand? We invented Gatorade, for Cripes sake. Turn on the fargin TV sometime, you deucepad. Write that chit down, the University of Florida is the fargin SEC.
5. Um…okay. I’ll…so, is Percy Harvin going to be 100% for the game?
CUM: Who gives a chit about percentages…100%, 88%, that chit doesn’t fargin matter. All that matters is that my boys do what I tell them to do, and when they do, they fargin do it better than anyone else does it. You think Harvin is fast? You should try that kid’s Macaroni Casserole…my favorite. You think the Pouncey brothers can block…sheeeet, ain’t nothing compared to how good they are at mowing the lawn. Brandon James is a damn good punt returner, but you should see that kid mop a floor. You can eat off that chit. Tebow, everyone’s favorite fargin superhero, gives the best massages this side of the Bunny Ranch. These kids are the fargin best at every fraking thing they do.
Ha, it almost sounds like you give your players chores to do around your house.
CUM: What’s so funny about that? Coach Meyer don’t do fargin dishes. Urb Dog doesn’t clean toilets. Plus, these are the most talented kids in the country, what kind of coach would I be if I didn’t push them to be everything they could be? Not like they got anything else to fargin do after practice.
6. What about Academics?
CUM: What about what, now?
I was actually meaning to ask you this anyway…Coach, is it true that you recently told your players to ignore their academics so they could focus on the National Championship Game?
CUM: Fargin right.
Are you at all concerned at how that might look, given that these are student-athletes? Might be seen as ignoring the whole student part.
CUM: Are you fargin serious? That whole student-athlete thing is bullchit, and every corksucker in the NC 2 A fargin knows it. I’m just the only one with stones enough to admit it. Speaking of which, I have to go to the back to get a shave. You wanna come?
Um, no thanks. I think we can just end the interview now.
CUM: Your loss, deucepad. Coach Meyer out.
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Thursday, January 8, 2009
BREAKING: Bradford Likely A Nevernude
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Several irreputable sources have confirmed that Oklahoma Sooner quarterback Sam Bradford is probably a nevernude. Suspicions were raised when multiple pairs of skin tight jorts were found in Bradford's Miami hotel room. Nevertheless, the issue was completely ignored by the press on media day. Just goes to show how the ESPN agenda dominates what you do and do not see and hear about. More on how this affects the game after the jump...
It doesn't. UF 45-OU 17. This is as much of a sure thing as Notre Dame being irrelevant for the next five years.
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It doesn't. UF 45-OU 17. This is as much of a sure thing as Notre Dame being irrelevant for the next five years.
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Tuesday, January 6, 2009
Might be time to revoke the Big Ten’s BCS membership
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Yes, I know the Big Ten is one of the “premier” conferences in college football. And they have experienced a great deal of success over the years. But, things change. Hell, at one time Army was one of the most dominant college football teams in the country. Times have changed, because that is pretty far from the truth at this point. Wait, I don’t want to be perceived as disrespecting the service academies or the Armed Forces, so let me edit that a bit. Hell, at one time Notre Dame was one of the most dominant college football teams in the country. Times have changed, because that is pretty far from the truth at this point. (much better)
Back in the day, the Big Ten used to fare pretty well in BCS bowl games. In the 90’s the Big Ten was undefeated in BCS bowl games. But, that was last decade. In BCS bowls played in this millennium, the Big Ten is a putrid 4-11, including going 0 for their last 6. And it’s not just the losing, it’s how they’re losing. In their last 6 BCS games, Big Ten teams have been outscored by their opponents 222 to 118. That’s pretty pathetic. By way of contrast, the SEC is 11-5 in BCS games, including a 4-0 record in championship games (pending Thursday’s game—-see Not-Turner-Gill’s guarantee).
I say it’s time to put the Big Ten on probation. They should have to relinquish their automatic bid until they prove themselves to be a power conference again. In the meantime, maybe we should give their bid to the Mountain West Conference, who is undefeated in BCS games. Anyway, in a few years, once the Big Ten is back on top, we can talk about getting them an automatic bid again. Although, at that point, we’ll probably have to take it from the ACC. They’re pretty terrible, too.
Now, this probably won’t be a popular move. Especially with fans of USC and the SEC schools, who are used to having a Big Ten team to beat up on in their BCS bowl games. But, we can’t be selfish at a time like this. These are proud fan bases we’re talking about, and it isn’t right to subject them to seeing their team get demolished in a BCS game year after year. We’re better than that. But, I guess more importantly, we’re better than them.
On a scale of one to Gus Johnson, I give this a Thom Brennaman.
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Back in the day, the Big Ten used to fare pretty well in BCS bowl games. In the 90’s the Big Ten was undefeated in BCS bowl games. But, that was last decade. In BCS bowls played in this millennium, the Big Ten is a putrid 4-11, including going 0 for their last 6. And it’s not just the losing, it’s how they’re losing. In their last 6 BCS games, Big Ten teams have been outscored by their opponents 222 to 118. That’s pretty pathetic. By way of contrast, the SEC is 11-5 in BCS games, including a 4-0 record in championship games (pending Thursday’s game—-see Not-Turner-Gill’s guarantee).
I say it’s time to put the Big Ten on probation. They should have to relinquish their automatic bid until they prove themselves to be a power conference again. In the meantime, maybe we should give their bid to the Mountain West Conference, who is undefeated in BCS games. Anyway, in a few years, once the Big Ten is back on top, we can talk about getting them an automatic bid again. Although, at that point, we’ll probably have to take it from the ACC. They’re pretty terrible, too.
Now, this probably won’t be a popular move. Especially with fans of USC and the SEC schools, who are used to having a Big Ten team to beat up on in their BCS bowl games. But, we can’t be selfish at a time like this. These are proud fan bases we’re talking about, and it isn’t right to subject them to seeing their team get demolished in a BCS game year after year. We’re better than that. But, I guess more importantly, we’re better than them.
On a scale of one to Gus Johnson, I give this a Thom Brennaman.
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Things I Just Don't Get
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There are some things I just don’t understand. I’ll put it right out there. I don’t understand the way General Managers operate and I don’t understand the way Major League Baseball punishes players.
I’m a Philadelphia sports fan. I root for all four of the teams from the City of Brotherly Love. I don’t intend to whine about how my team just won a championship. First of all, counting the 2008 Phillies, the professional sports teams I root for have won two championships in my lifetime. The other came when I was just short of two years old. Second, I don’t demand or expect my favorite team to win every single year. I’m not a Yankees fan after all. I would, however, like my teams to make intelligent front office decisions and I would like them to be competitive, because, well, I like watching baseball in September and I didn’t get to do it for the vast majority of my childhood.
In the past two days, two things involving the Phillies have struck me.
First, the Tampa Bay Rays signed former Phillie Pat Burrell to a two-year, $8 million per year deal. On October 31, the Phillies offered the 32-year-old Burrell two years, $22 million. Burrell declined. On December 12, the Phillies signed 37-year-old Raul Ibanez to a three-year, $30 million deal. On January 5, Burrell agreed to his current deal with the Rays. Quite simply, this makes my head hurt. I get it. The economy’s bad. There are a ton of outfielders on the market. In October, Burrell thought he could get more than he could in reality. Does Phillies GM Ruben Amaro, Jr. not get this? How is that possible? Instead, he leaves his lineup completely devoid of a right-handed power bat, in order to replace Burrell with a 37-year-old with a lefty with a better average, worse power numbers, and a similarly crappy glove who is making 20 percent more with an additional year on the contract. Um … really? Meanwhile, there are still a ton of outfielders on the market. So why the rush to sign Ibanez, Ruben? Pat Gillick is gone and presumably with him is the proclivity to sign anyone from Seattle. Wouldn’t it have been worth the wait instead of signing Ibanez for twice his worth? Who knows, maybe this will work out. Maybe Burrell just really wanted to DH. Maybe that was worth $3 million a year to him. Still, I don’t get it.
Second, as you’ve probably heard, Major League Baseball has suspended J.C. Romero 50 games next season for taking a performance enhancing drug, even though he checked with three sources, two nutritionists and the MLBPA, before taking it to ensure it wasn’t banned. The MLB actually isn’t claiming that Romero intentionally did this, instead finding him guilty of “negligence.” A lot of this bothers me. First of all, it will actually keep players from checking on drugs they are about to take if they can’t rely on the opinions of the people with whom they check. In addition, 50 games? Seriously? This is absurd. Why would MLB punish someone who acts negligently (even though, he clearly didn’t) to the same extent that they would punish someone who acted with the requisite intent? Maybe law school is just warping my worldview, but this befuddles me.
On a scale of one to Gus Johnson, I’d give this post a Mitch Williams.
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I’m a Philadelphia sports fan. I root for all four of the teams from the City of Brotherly Love. I don’t intend to whine about how my team just won a championship. First of all, counting the 2008 Phillies, the professional sports teams I root for have won two championships in my lifetime. The other came when I was just short of two years old. Second, I don’t demand or expect my favorite team to win every single year. I’m not a Yankees fan after all. I would, however, like my teams to make intelligent front office decisions and I would like them to be competitive, because, well, I like watching baseball in September and I didn’t get to do it for the vast majority of my childhood.
In the past two days, two things involving the Phillies have struck me.
First, the Tampa Bay Rays signed former Phillie Pat Burrell to a two-year, $8 million per year deal. On October 31, the Phillies offered the 32-year-old Burrell two years, $22 million. Burrell declined. On December 12, the Phillies signed 37-year-old Raul Ibanez to a three-year, $30 million deal. On January 5, Burrell agreed to his current deal with the Rays. Quite simply, this makes my head hurt. I get it. The economy’s bad. There are a ton of outfielders on the market. In October, Burrell thought he could get more than he could in reality. Does Phillies GM Ruben Amaro, Jr. not get this? How is that possible? Instead, he leaves his lineup completely devoid of a right-handed power bat, in order to replace Burrell with a 37-year-old with a lefty with a better average, worse power numbers, and a similarly crappy glove who is making 20 percent more with an additional year on the contract. Um … really? Meanwhile, there are still a ton of outfielders on the market. So why the rush to sign Ibanez, Ruben? Pat Gillick is gone and presumably with him is the proclivity to sign anyone from Seattle. Wouldn’t it have been worth the wait instead of signing Ibanez for twice his worth? Who knows, maybe this will work out. Maybe Burrell just really wanted to DH. Maybe that was worth $3 million a year to him. Still, I don’t get it.
Second, as you’ve probably heard, Major League Baseball has suspended J.C. Romero 50 games next season for taking a performance enhancing drug, even though he checked with three sources, two nutritionists and the MLBPA, before taking it to ensure it wasn’t banned. The MLB actually isn’t claiming that Romero intentionally did this, instead finding him guilty of “negligence.” A lot of this bothers me. First of all, it will actually keep players from checking on drugs they are about to take if they can’t rely on the opinions of the people with whom they check. In addition, 50 games? Seriously? This is absurd. Why would MLB punish someone who acts negligently (even though, he clearly didn’t) to the same extent that they would punish someone who acted with the requisite intent? Maybe law school is just warping my worldview, but this befuddles me.
On a scale of one to Gus Johnson, I’d give this post a Mitch Williams.
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Blanket Guarantee
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I guarantee that the University of Florida will win it's third national championship on Thursday. Oklahoma only has a chance in the way that its possible to be struck by lightening or to spontaneously combust. In fact, something similar would have to happen in order for Oklahoma to win. The Gators are just that much better. I don't need any objective rationale for this. In the world of Not-Turner-Gill, everything is black and white, things just are or aren't. With that in mind, here are the keys to the game for both teams:
For Oklahoma to win, these three things must happen: 1) Tebow must spontaneously combust. Don't misunderstand me, this is a MUST. 2) Spikes and Harvin declare for the NFL midway through the first quarter, and they proceed to pour champagne on everyone. You need both elements. 3) Finally, Mullen will have to call potential recruits of Mississippi State University during the game, tell them the plays before he calls them, and then proceed to pour champagne on everyone in the booth.
For Florida to win: Prevent any of these things from happening.
If this scenario plays out, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I will gladly let you shower me with insults. I love champagne. But the odds are slightly in my favor. I will be back to gloat on Friday.
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For Oklahoma to win, these three things must happen: 1) Tebow must spontaneously combust. Don't misunderstand me, this is a MUST. 2) Spikes and Harvin declare for the NFL midway through the first quarter, and they proceed to pour champagne on everyone. You need both elements. 3) Finally, Mullen will have to call potential recruits of Mississippi State University during the game, tell them the plays before he calls them, and then proceed to pour champagne on everyone in the booth.
For Florida to win: Prevent any of these things from happening.
If this scenario plays out, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I will gladly let you shower me with insults. I love champagne. But the odds are slightly in my favor. I will be back to gloat on Friday.
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Monday, January 5, 2009
Looks like the BCS did what it was designed to do…screw Utah
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After Utah completed its undefeated season by beating up on Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, I started to wonder why they wouldn’t get some consideration as national champions. Sure, they can’t win the BCS National Championship, but maybe they can get one of those USC-styled paper championships. I mean, if you think about it, Utah had a pretty impressive season.
I know they’re in a non-BCS conference, and play the likes of Utah State and Wyoming. But, they beat Alabama, who was ranked #1 for five straight weeks at the end of the year, and was a few minutes away from playing for a national championship. Utah also beat TCU, which will likely finish the season ranked in the top 10. They also beat BYU, who will likely end up a top-25 team. Another top-25 team defeated by Utah this season is Oregon State, who some of you may remember as the team who beat USC earlier in the year. Utah’s resume may not be stacked, but it’s not entirely thin either.
Actually, Utah’s resume is more impressive than Florida’s, in terms of top-25 teams played. Florida beat only one top-25 team in Georgia (although this will likely end up as 2 if Florida State jumps back in the poll), and lost to the other top-25 team it faced in Ole Miss. I’d like to argue that beating LSU, the most talented 8-5 team in the country, is reason to rank Florida ahead of Utah, but that’s for another day. Just based on top-25 teams defeated, Utah beats Florida 4-2. I still don’t think Utah would beat Florida, but on paper, you could make the argument that they’re more deserving of a national championship. Although I guess if Florida ends up beating Oklahoma, that would make their resume as impressive as Utah’s in terms of teams beaten, if not more so. But, you still can’t get past that whole “only team to go undefeated” thing.
Anyway, this whole thing got me curious about the 1984 season, when BYU won the national championship. They’re the last team from a “mid-major” conference to do so. Just like Utah this year, BYU finished the ’84 season as the only undefeated team. There were a bunch of 1-loss teams that year, including Washington and Nebraska, but somehow BYU was voted #1 in all the major polls. I wasn’t really following college football back then, but apparently it was a pretty controversial thing at the time. This might have something to do with the fact that not one team on BYU’s schedule finished the year in the top 25, and they beat an average 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl. Not really all that impressive.
The thing that I found kind of funny was that the articles I read on wikipedia seemed to suggest that it was BYU’s national championship that led the 6 power conferences to form the Bowl Coalition, the predecessor to the BCS, back in 1992. I’m not sure the math works, as that would mean it would have taken 8 years to get it started, but I guess it is certainly plausible. Can’t say that the BCS conferences are all that crazy about change, so maybe it would take that long to get off the ground. Let’s just assume that this was the catalyst for the creation of what is now the BCS. Well, I’d say it’s doing exactly what it was supposed to do…screw over the mid-majors like Utah.
As I stated earlier, Utah’s resume is pretty impressive, maybe impressive enough to get them into the championship game. The problem though, is that we really didn’t know how talented they were until they beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Until then, they were just a cute story. The team from the crappy conference who managed to beat all the other teams from their crappy conference. We all thought that was great for them, then laughed at the thought of them playing Bama in the Sugar Bowl. (okay, I was mainly laughing about all the Utah fans in the French Quarter, but anyway). All of a sudden they beat Bama, and it’s like, “whoa! Wait a tick, these guys can play. Oh well, too bad the season’s over.”
It’s a shame, because Utah couldn’t have done much more to bolster their resume. They won every game on their schedule, beat 4 top-25 teams, including a team ranked #1 for a third of the season. Not much more they could have done. Well, this year at least. I guess for a school like Utah to get more respect in future BCS polls, they’ll have to start scheduling the perennial powers like Ohio State, USC, and LSU. They need to go for broke every year with their scheduling if they hope to finish at the top of the BCS standings. Because, beating up on the Mountain West and the WAC just won’t get it done.
Maybe this is the kind of thing that will finally get people talking seriously about a playoff. But, I doubt it. If keeping schools like Utah out of the championship picture was the goal of the BCS, I can’t see the powers-that-be changing things for them. For what it’s worth, I certainly haven’t changed my position. As much as I’d love to see what Utah could do in a playoff, I still prefer the current system. Doesn’t really matter though, because I really don’t see things changing any time soon. I guess Utah will have to remain just a cute story.
On a scale of one to Gus Johnson, this gets a Howie Long.
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I know they’re in a non-BCS conference, and play the likes of Utah State and Wyoming. But, they beat Alabama, who was ranked #1 for five straight weeks at the end of the year, and was a few minutes away from playing for a national championship. Utah also beat TCU, which will likely finish the season ranked in the top 10. They also beat BYU, who will likely end up a top-25 team. Another top-25 team defeated by Utah this season is Oregon State, who some of you may remember as the team who beat USC earlier in the year. Utah’s resume may not be stacked, but it’s not entirely thin either.
Actually, Utah’s resume is more impressive than Florida’s, in terms of top-25 teams played. Florida beat only one top-25 team in Georgia (although this will likely end up as 2 if Florida State jumps back in the poll), and lost to the other top-25 team it faced in Ole Miss. I’d like to argue that beating LSU, the most talented 8-5 team in the country, is reason to rank Florida ahead of Utah, but that’s for another day. Just based on top-25 teams defeated, Utah beats Florida 4-2. I still don’t think Utah would beat Florida, but on paper, you could make the argument that they’re more deserving of a national championship. Although I guess if Florida ends up beating Oklahoma, that would make their resume as impressive as Utah’s in terms of teams beaten, if not more so. But, you still can’t get past that whole “only team to go undefeated” thing.
Anyway, this whole thing got me curious about the 1984 season, when BYU won the national championship. They’re the last team from a “mid-major” conference to do so. Just like Utah this year, BYU finished the ’84 season as the only undefeated team. There were a bunch of 1-loss teams that year, including Washington and Nebraska, but somehow BYU was voted #1 in all the major polls. I wasn’t really following college football back then, but apparently it was a pretty controversial thing at the time. This might have something to do with the fact that not one team on BYU’s schedule finished the year in the top 25, and they beat an average 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl. Not really all that impressive.
The thing that I found kind of funny was that the articles I read on wikipedia seemed to suggest that it was BYU’s national championship that led the 6 power conferences to form the Bowl Coalition, the predecessor to the BCS, back in 1992. I’m not sure the math works, as that would mean it would have taken 8 years to get it started, but I guess it is certainly plausible. Can’t say that the BCS conferences are all that crazy about change, so maybe it would take that long to get off the ground. Let’s just assume that this was the catalyst for the creation of what is now the BCS. Well, I’d say it’s doing exactly what it was supposed to do…screw over the mid-majors like Utah.
As I stated earlier, Utah’s resume is pretty impressive, maybe impressive enough to get them into the championship game. The problem though, is that we really didn’t know how talented they were until they beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Until then, they were just a cute story. The team from the crappy conference who managed to beat all the other teams from their crappy conference. We all thought that was great for them, then laughed at the thought of them playing Bama in the Sugar Bowl. (okay, I was mainly laughing about all the Utah fans in the French Quarter, but anyway). All of a sudden they beat Bama, and it’s like, “whoa! Wait a tick, these guys can play. Oh well, too bad the season’s over.”
It’s a shame, because Utah couldn’t have done much more to bolster their resume. They won every game on their schedule, beat 4 top-25 teams, including a team ranked #1 for a third of the season. Not much more they could have done. Well, this year at least. I guess for a school like Utah to get more respect in future BCS polls, they’ll have to start scheduling the perennial powers like Ohio State, USC, and LSU. They need to go for broke every year with their scheduling if they hope to finish at the top of the BCS standings. Because, beating up on the Mountain West and the WAC just won’t get it done.
Maybe this is the kind of thing that will finally get people talking seriously about a playoff. But, I doubt it. If keeping schools like Utah out of the championship picture was the goal of the BCS, I can’t see the powers-that-be changing things for them. For what it’s worth, I certainly haven’t changed my position. As much as I’d love to see what Utah could do in a playoff, I still prefer the current system. Doesn’t really matter though, because I really don’t see things changing any time soon. I guess Utah will have to remain just a cute story.
On a scale of one to Gus Johnson, this gets a Howie Long.
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Wednesday, December 31, 2008
Why Do People Like Brett Favre?
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This morning, PedrioaTheDestroyah and I had a little debate via email. It all started with a simple question, “why do people like Brett Favre?” We’ve seen the Sports Guy post similar online conversations on the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network website, so we thought it would be fun to post ours on our websites. Enjoy…or don’t, really doesn’t matter.
PtD: Why do people like Brett Favre? Packer fans shouldn’t anymore, and god knows Jets fans shouldn’t. I guess Dolphins fans have a reason, though.
JB: Who likes Brett Favre?
PtD: The media, and apparently middle America. Someone must like him or he wouldn’t be on TV all the damn time.
JB: Just because he’s a story doesn’t necessarily mean people like him. I think people used to like him, I know I used to love watching him play. I’m sort of ambivalent towards him now. But, he’s still one of the greatest QB’s ever, so he’s news.
PtD: Yeah, but the story is that he is now terrible, but people keep saying he is good. People say he started the season strong, but that’s not really true. He was never playing very well. For instance, his first touchdown of the year may as well have been a punt. He literally just threw it straight in the air with no idea what jet might catch it.
The Jets played well at times, only that was when he wasn’t allowed to throw like a jackass because Mangina said he needed to work within the offense. Then they got to 8-3, and Favre decided he could do whatever he wanted, and then their season went to hell.
JB: I'm sensing you have strong feelings about this.
PtD: Oh yes, this summer Brett became my most hated of all athletes...and he took it to a new level on Sunday. No one (except Steven A. Smith, preach on) calls this loser out.
JB: Ok, I look at it like this. Brett Favre is like George Carlin at the end of his career. Back in the day, Carlin was one of the funniest comedians around, a transcendent talent. But, once he got older, he stopped being funny. Only no one acknowledged this. People kept buying his CD’s, going to his shows, and laughing at his “jokes”. But, it wasn’t because he was funny, it was because he was George Carlin. He kept trading on the Carlin name that he had built up earlier. That’s the stage that Favre’s at in his career. He’s not a quarterback anymore, he’s Brett Favre.
PtD: I’m fine with there being idiots who continue to like him, there will always be those idiots. My problem is that every time Jaws is asked about Brett Favre he should say the following...“Brett Favre is not capable of being a quarterback in the National Football League.”
JB: Really? Not capable? He may not be capable of being an elite QB, or even a good one for that matter. But, I think Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Dan Orlovsky, Ken Dorsey, and J.T O’Shaun-Hill all started several games this year.
I think that’s one of the big myths about NFL QBs. There really aren’t that many good ones. Anytime Tony Romo is anywhere near a discussion of who the best QBs in the league are, you’re in trouble.
PtD: Oh, I completely agree (although Thigpen actually looked promising at the end of the year), I just don’t think Favre can get a team in the playoffs. And it’s not just that Brett gets credited as being good, but he’s considered one of the best. He’s made the Pro Bowl! Do you know how crazy that is? I get the feeling Brett is going to fake an injury and not go, but he should get up in front of all those cameras and say…hey, I had a very bad season, and therefore I cannot accept an invitation to the Pro Bowl.
And it’s inexcusable that ESPN didn’t bash the Favre pick. This kid gloves shit needs to stop. The guy is still playing, he’s not a retired legend yet. At one point on Sunday, Jim Nantz and Phil Simms were blaming an interception on an injury that occurred after the pick had happened. And I’m sure Brett came out with this shoulder thing to the media knowing full well there was a good chance he would lose...and this way its the arms fault. I want to punch him.
JB: I think you’re being a little overdramatic. Plus, he has a torn muscle.
PtD: Meh, it’s partially torn. Big Ben and Tom Brady have both won Super Bowls with separated throwing shoulders. What I’m saying is...throwing a two yard pass directly to a 300 pound D lineman is not caused by an injury, it’s caused by being terrible. And, that was honestly the worst TAINT I’ve seen in years.
JB: Or maybe the best? That was a hell of a run by the big guy. Plus, those kinds of int's on screens happen all the time. I think Jarrett Lee (LSU’s QB) threw 2 of them this year.
PtD: 1. The LSU QB is a joke. 2. Brett stared down that lineman, then threw it to him. The lineman didn’t step in front, he was standing there. Brett threw it right to the Dolphin player.
JB: I don’t think that’s true. Favre faked the screen to the left, then whipped around and threw the ball. He probably could have avoided the throw, but I wouldn’t say he stared the receiver down. You’re way too emotional about this.
PtD: Best case, he threw the ball without looking. My view may be extreme, but my conclusion that the media and the Jets should hate him more than they do is very accurate. The Jets came out yesterday and said they would give Brett as long as he needed to decide if he wants to play next year. Why in the hell would they want him? Brett sucked down the stretch…what was it, 1 TD and 9 ints his last 4? But he’s a gunslinger. Apparently, gunslinger also means terrible quarterback.
JB: I’m not even sure what we’re arguing about anymore.
PtD: That the Jets are crazy to want him back, and Brett Favre needs to be ridiculed in public by members of the media.
JB: Ha, that’s never going to happen, he’s a legend. It’s like when Jerry Rice was at the end of his career but wouldn’t stop playing. He was awful, but everyone still talked about him like he was Jerry Rice. I guess nobody really noticed though because he didn’t have the ball every play.
PtD: I agree with you on that, I’m just saying it’s wrong, it’s always wrong.
JB: Cool, I just like comparing things. So far I’ve compared Favre to George Carlin and Jerry Rice.
PtD: And I’ve compared Favre to a terrible quarterback. If more people did that, I’d be happy. I must once again give props to Steven A., though. On Sports Reporters this Sunday, he called Favre “an interception waiting to happen.” I liked that.
JB: Ha, you like Steven A. Smith.
Oh, on a scale of one to Gus Johnson, this probably goes for a Craig Sager.
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PtD: Why do people like Brett Favre? Packer fans shouldn’t anymore, and god knows Jets fans shouldn’t. I guess Dolphins fans have a reason, though.
JB: Who likes Brett Favre?
PtD: The media, and apparently middle America. Someone must like him or he wouldn’t be on TV all the damn time.
JB: Just because he’s a story doesn’t necessarily mean people like him. I think people used to like him, I know I used to love watching him play. I’m sort of ambivalent towards him now. But, he’s still one of the greatest QB’s ever, so he’s news.
PtD: Yeah, but the story is that he is now terrible, but people keep saying he is good. People say he started the season strong, but that’s not really true. He was never playing very well. For instance, his first touchdown of the year may as well have been a punt. He literally just threw it straight in the air with no idea what jet might catch it.
The Jets played well at times, only that was when he wasn’t allowed to throw like a jackass because Mangina said he needed to work within the offense. Then they got to 8-3, and Favre decided he could do whatever he wanted, and then their season went to hell.
JB: I'm sensing you have strong feelings about this.
PtD: Oh yes, this summer Brett became my most hated of all athletes...and he took it to a new level on Sunday. No one (except Steven A. Smith, preach on) calls this loser out.
JB: Ok, I look at it like this. Brett Favre is like George Carlin at the end of his career. Back in the day, Carlin was one of the funniest comedians around, a transcendent talent. But, once he got older, he stopped being funny. Only no one acknowledged this. People kept buying his CD’s, going to his shows, and laughing at his “jokes”. But, it wasn’t because he was funny, it was because he was George Carlin. He kept trading on the Carlin name that he had built up earlier. That’s the stage that Favre’s at in his career. He’s not a quarterback anymore, he’s Brett Favre.
PtD: I’m fine with there being idiots who continue to like him, there will always be those idiots. My problem is that every time Jaws is asked about Brett Favre he should say the following...“Brett Favre is not capable of being a quarterback in the National Football League.”
JB: Really? Not capable? He may not be capable of being an elite QB, or even a good one for that matter. But, I think Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Dan Orlovsky, Ken Dorsey, and J.T O’Shaun-Hill all started several games this year.
I think that’s one of the big myths about NFL QBs. There really aren’t that many good ones. Anytime Tony Romo is anywhere near a discussion of who the best QBs in the league are, you’re in trouble.
PtD: Oh, I completely agree (although Thigpen actually looked promising at the end of the year), I just don’t think Favre can get a team in the playoffs. And it’s not just that Brett gets credited as being good, but he’s considered one of the best. He’s made the Pro Bowl! Do you know how crazy that is? I get the feeling Brett is going to fake an injury and not go, but he should get up in front of all those cameras and say…hey, I had a very bad season, and therefore I cannot accept an invitation to the Pro Bowl.
And it’s inexcusable that ESPN didn’t bash the Favre pick. This kid gloves shit needs to stop. The guy is still playing, he’s not a retired legend yet. At one point on Sunday, Jim Nantz and Phil Simms were blaming an interception on an injury that occurred after the pick had happened. And I’m sure Brett came out with this shoulder thing to the media knowing full well there was a good chance he would lose...and this way its the arms fault. I want to punch him.
JB: I think you’re being a little overdramatic. Plus, he has a torn muscle.
PtD: Meh, it’s partially torn. Big Ben and Tom Brady have both won Super Bowls with separated throwing shoulders. What I’m saying is...throwing a two yard pass directly to a 300 pound D lineman is not caused by an injury, it’s caused by being terrible. And, that was honestly the worst TAINT I’ve seen in years.
JB: Or maybe the best? That was a hell of a run by the big guy. Plus, those kinds of int's on screens happen all the time. I think Jarrett Lee (LSU’s QB) threw 2 of them this year.
PtD: 1. The LSU QB is a joke. 2. Brett stared down that lineman, then threw it to him. The lineman didn’t step in front, he was standing there. Brett threw it right to the Dolphin player.
JB: I don’t think that’s true. Favre faked the screen to the left, then whipped around and threw the ball. He probably could have avoided the throw, but I wouldn’t say he stared the receiver down. You’re way too emotional about this.
PtD: Best case, he threw the ball without looking. My view may be extreme, but my conclusion that the media and the Jets should hate him more than they do is very accurate. The Jets came out yesterday and said they would give Brett as long as he needed to decide if he wants to play next year. Why in the hell would they want him? Brett sucked down the stretch…what was it, 1 TD and 9 ints his last 4? But he’s a gunslinger. Apparently, gunslinger also means terrible quarterback.
JB: I’m not even sure what we’re arguing about anymore.
PtD: That the Jets are crazy to want him back, and Brett Favre needs to be ridiculed in public by members of the media.
JB: Ha, that’s never going to happen, he’s a legend. It’s like when Jerry Rice was at the end of his career but wouldn’t stop playing. He was awful, but everyone still talked about him like he was Jerry Rice. I guess nobody really noticed though because he didn’t have the ball every play.
PtD: I agree with you on that, I’m just saying it’s wrong, it’s always wrong.
JB: Cool, I just like comparing things. So far I’ve compared Favre to George Carlin and Jerry Rice.
PtD: And I’ve compared Favre to a terrible quarterback. If more people did that, I’d be happy. I must once again give props to Steven A., though. On Sports Reporters this Sunday, he called Favre “an interception waiting to happen.” I liked that.
JB: Ha, you like Steven A. Smith.
Oh, on a scale of one to Gus Johnson, this probably goes for a Craig Sager.
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